Every member of the body of Christ here will know they are living in their
destiny, and that not one person will go to their grave with their music still
in them, but they will sing their song, and reach their purpose God’s got for them
here…
Tuesday, January 9, 2007
Simple Church
Posted by bonnie: at 3:40 PM 0 thoughts
labels: theology
me and the church
I've begun to want more out of church. I'm beginning to think that church being all about *me* and my other fellow believers is backwards. Maybe the main focus of the gathering shouldn't always be to sit quietly and be “fed the Word" when what we equally need to do is get out into the world and feed (literally) the would-be sheep. I'm tired of pretending and living like we are in a "culture war" and "they" are the enemy (thanks to Adventures in Mercy in this post that really helped me "get it"). I want to shout, "Wake up!" to "the Body" and tell the butt to stop acting like we are here simply to make it until we are rescued from this horrible, no-good, God-forsaken land. We are called to make disciples, to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, help the poor, the widows and the orphans, and to live lives worthy of the call (Ephesians 4:1-3, Colossians 1:9-11) *here on earth*. Our so-called cultural enemies are the very people we have a responsibility to love and to care for.
I’m not referring simply to evangelism (because I always felt uncomfortable with the idea of passing out tracts). I am coming to realize that loving our neighbors as ourselves is much more intimate than a five minute Christian schpeal (am I the only one who uses this made up word?). There is a new (to me) way of doing church. It’s a new (to me) focus for the church, and the key term is missional.
One of my new habitual reads is The Blind Beggar, and he has compiled missional thought on a website completely devoted to it- Friend of Missional. The website explains what missional is in context of the way we normally “do church,” and it is very easy to read and understand. I strongly encourage you to take a look, and come back here and tell me your thoughts. It’s not too long and I regard it as exceedingly important.
I am honestly not trying to condemn our church structure as it stands, but I feel so complacent going to church, coming home, living life with my morally like-minded body and never doing much beyond baking brownies and Ooey Gooey for the neighbors.
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son… let’s go out and touch the world, one person at a time.
Posted by bonnie: at 9:14 AM 1 thoughts
labels: theology
Monday, December 4, 2006
Thursday, November 16, 2006
The American Christian

UPDATE 2/27/2007:
I figured out YouTube! Here's the video that cracks me up and causes me to squint with familiarity at the same time (...isn't it ironic...)!
I can't figure out how to put YouTube up on my blog ('cause I really don't know what I'm doing- technically;), so you'll have to go visit the source rather than getting it straight from me! (I just discovered SmuloSpace, and have been reading it off and on all day [since I was wide awake and in need of some time-passing stimulation at 3 o'clock this morning].)
This video clip from John Smulo's blog is a great caricature of what American Christianity has become to so many people. It makes me rethink being a Christ-follower and how I express that to the "world" vs. how the "world" outside of Christianity sees most Christians.
"The world doesn't know what you are trying to say, but you'll keep trying anyway."
Posted by bonnie: at 2:28 PM 3 thoughts
labels: theology
Monday, November 13, 2006
"Natalists"- a definition from the New York Times

I was surprised to see this editorial come from the New York Times- as liberal as it is. But this guy has hit the mark in many ways when it comes to famlies who choose to have more than 2.3 children.
Natalists are associated with red America, but they're not launching a jihad. The differences between them and people on the other side of the cultural or political divide are differences of degree, not kind. Like most Americans, but perhaps more anxiously, they try to shepherd their kids through supermarket checkouts lined with screaming Cosmo or Maxim cover lines. Like most Americans, but maybe more so, they suspect that we won't solve our social problems or see improvements in our schools as long as many kids are growing up in barely functioning families.He has documented a trend here, and he is surprisingly accurate.
Posted by bonnie: at 8:55 PM 0 thoughts
Friday, November 10, 2006
The Spirit Filled Believer
It is important that we know, at a time when Christians in America are being marginalized, that God is powerfully at work in the world. Lets not take our lukewarm circumstances here and project them upon the Kingdom of God. America does not equal Christendom (and it never did), nor are we any longer at the epicenter of what God is about. The future is Africa, South America and Asia. Exciting times!
This is a quote from The Blind Beggar regarding an international survey that the Pew Forum conducted "among a random sample of the population at large" in 10 different countries (the United States; Brazil, Chile and Guatemala in Latin America; Kenya, Nigeria and South Africa in Africa; and India, the Philippines and South Korea in Asia). From the survey:
In six of the 10 countries (all except the U.S., South Africa, the regions of India surveyed and South Korea), the surveys find that renewalists account for a majority of the overall Protestant population. Indeed, in five nations (Brazil, Chile, Guatemala, Kenya and the Philippines) more than two-thirds of Protestants are either pentecostal or charismatic. In Nigeria, renewalists account for six-in-ten Protestants.

What is it these Christ-followers are experiencing, living, breathing that we in America are missing out on? This is a huge group of Christians that believe in the power of the Holy Spirit *and live it*. They believe in that mysterious third part of the Trinity that most mainstream American churches ignore, and I'm a little suspicious of America's lack of interaction with It. What do you think?
Posted by bonnie: at 3:18 PM 2 thoughts
labels: theology
Friday, November 3, 2006
Autumn in the Desert
It's really challenging to get into the seasonal spirit here in the desert. The sun shines every day, the sky is usually cloudless and brilliant blue, and the weather, well, it's certainly not fall or winter-ish. Last year as I was lamenting the fact that it was already Thanksgiving and it just didn't feel right, a friend from the homeschool group told me she had realized that you have to decorate your house. Otherwise the days come and go and there is no real change to them. I understood, and this year I have tried to do better. I am not a "seasonal decorator," so putting fake flowers and leaves and things around has been hard. I don't really "get" it. Our house isn't exactly spotless to begin with (we do live here...with three children), so the idea of putting things out...on the counters and whatnot...it doesn't make sense to add more clutter! Here's my briliant idea to infuse a little bit of fall (and creativity via my children) into our house.
My love nailed some hemp from either side of the wall/ceiling that seperates the kithchen from the dining room, and I used regular ol' clothes pins to hang the kids' art. My oldest protested when I hung the littles cats up there saying, "Mama, those aren't fall pictures!" But I like them, and there isn't anywhere else to display their precious art just yet.
I love to see the littles sit in their chairs at the table and stare at all the pictures. I think this brings me one step further to adjusting to the desert. It is, after all, where God brought us. And I want to be where He wants me to be...
Posted by bonnie: at 12:30 PM 0 thoughts
labels: homeschool, house
Thursday, October 19, 2006
Beauty is Fleeting
The ad says, "No wonder our perception of beauty is distorted." Isn't that the truth? As Americans the push is to look perfect, like the models and movie stars placed conveniently everywhere we look. Discontenment in our hearts (about our bodies, faces, homes, etc) breeds materialism; and let's face it, our nation capitalizes on each individuals desire for more. This is no profound idea I've just come up with, but I really appreciate Dove's attempt at revealing the truth in the midst of such a truth-denying culture. We are all beautiful- and the one part they are leaving out- because God made us fearfully and wonderfully. Here's a short ad I've just been introduced to.
Evolution
Hat Tip to "Charlie" from HomeDiscipling Dad
from Spunky's comments about her latest post.
Posted by bonnie: at 5:09 PM 0 thoughts
Wednesday, September 20, 2006
Ask The Principal

Here's another blog I find interesting. He was a public school principle who left the system to homeschool his kids. He's just gone back to teaching in the schools, and blogs about his first few weeks. Make sure you read the last half.
Ask The Principal: A teacher's work is never done....
Posted by bonnie: at 5:20 PM 0 thoughts
labels: homeschool
Friday, September 15, 2006
A Little Emo
I'm not sure if any of you found these links on anyone else's site, but I was reminded today when I heard Mercy Me's "I Can Only Imagine." Take the time to read the article, then go watch the film. *Trust me*, it is worth the time. Then go get your husbands, and make them watch it, too (after you make them read the article). It is just too wonderful, too heart filling to not pass on...
Paying Tribute to Dick Hoyt, the Strongest Dad in the World
and
The Inspirational Journey of Team Hoyt
...get the kleenex.
Posted by bonnie: at 6:02 PM 0 thoughts
Friday, August 18, 2006
The Cascade of Intervention

Childbirth. Such a normal thing to occur in a woman, yet so many abnormal things can occur when you place yourself in the hands of doctors. Yes, I am skeptical, as my very own first experience birthing in the hospital was not a pleasant one. In the Journal of the American Academy of Pediactrics it is stated, "several studies have documented an increase in maternal temperature associated with use of epidural analgesia during labor." This was my experience. I "spiked a temp" of 104, and all of the sudden I was made to push on the spot (with no feeling, of course, which is extremely difficult), and when the babe finally arrrived he was whisked off to the NICU to be monitored for breathing and stability (which may be a problem because of the antibiotics that they had pumped us with while he was still en utero). 24 hours later I got to see him for the first time; 10 days later I got to bring him home. And all the while I was thankful we were at a "good hospital" where my baby was getting the "best of care." I found out later (not from the doctors or nurses) that this scenario isn't all that uncommon with epidurals. The link has been established- epidurals may cause fever to rise, generally one or two degrees per hour the epidural is at work in your spine.
So it has been labeled the Cascade of Intervention. When you intervene uneccessarily with nature's role, generally there is a waterfall of effects that occur because one things leads to another- as with my hospital incident. I was in labor, went to the hospital, and was strapped to a chair by the IV in my arm. This was the first intervention. I couldn't move to cope with the pain. It was in my back, but I had to lie on it. It became unbearable so I got an epidural- the second intervention; then my temperature got too high, and they had to give me antibiotics- third intervention. And to top it off they had to help me push. They had to monitor him, so I didn't even see him for the first 24 hours - fourth intervention, and the next 10 days of monitoring- the final intervention. And so it commonly goes with hospital intervention in childbirth.
This type of scenario, not wholly uncommon, is why I am skeptical of a doctor's knowledge of what the best thing is for a birthing woman. Sometimes I think it may have to do with convenience, but surely it is no convenience to cover your tracks:
- A cesarean section poses documented medical risks to the mother's health, including infections, hemorrhage, transfusion, injury to other organs, anesthesia complications, psychological complications, and a maternal mortality two to four times greater than that for a vaginal birth.
- An elective cesarean section increases the risk to the infant of premature birth and respiratory distress syndrome, both of which are associated with multiple complications, intensive care and burdensome financial costs. Even mature babies, the absences of labor increases the risk of breathing problems and other complications.
And sometimes I think it has to do with doctors getting paid more:
and
- A cesarean costs nearly twice as much as a vaginal birth ($7,186 average vs. $4,334 average in 1989 in the US). It has been estimated that in Quebec, Canada, if the current rate of cesareans (18.8%) were reduced to that of Finland (11.9%), costs incurred by the provincial health care system could be reduced approximately $19 million per year.
- Cesarean rates are influenced by non-medical factors. Rates are higher for women who have private medical insurance, are private rather than public clinic patients, are older, are married, have higher levels of education and are in a higher socio-economic bracket.
These facts, being presented to you from the ICEA Cesarean Options committee , suggests that it is just as likely to be the mothers wish that she go through as little pain as possible to get the baby here. Of course these are speculations of mine, and not every epidural leads to a cesarean, and some cesareans are necessary , but for the most part, here in the States we have become an instant gratification, no-pain culture. Here is what the CDC says about birthrates in 2003,
More than one fourth of all children born in 2002 were delivered by cesarean; the total cesarean delivery rate of 26.1 percent was the highest level ever reported in the United States.No doubt it is higher now as the rates had been increasing for the last several years. Back to the fact sheet:
- The World Health Organization (WHO) states that no region in the world is justified in having a cesarean rate greater than 10 to 15 percent.
- In the past twenty years, the cesarean section rates have nearly quintupled in the US to 23.8% in 1989 and nearly quadrupled in Canada to 18.3% in 1987-8.
And now for the catalyst of this rant against unnecessary intervention. My sister had her baby yesterday via cesarean. She was losing too much blood, so they had to take the baby down to NICU to make sure he wasn't the one bleeding (I would have had them check him in my room). While he was there they realized that his lungs were full of liquid. They said that because he was brought out through a cesarean his lungs didn't have the necesary pressure on them that they generally would have if he had been pushed out. And during all this they found that the doc had sliced one of my sister's arteries, and it took 90 seconds to find it and stop the bleeding. The doctor told my mother that after three minutes a woman will bleed to death. I just can't help seeing the obvious- if she had pushed him
out, none of this would have happened. She still doesn't have her baby- he is in the care of the NICU because of his lungs. They are hoping to get him back this afternoon.It makes me angry at the medical community for allowing such ridiculous amounts of cesareans to occur. That poor baby had to be carted down to NICU and kept from his mother (all that he knew) for 24 hours now, when all of it could have been avoided had the doctor not allowed (he possibly even encouraged) my sister to have a cesarean. These are the facts on VBACs:
- In the US and Canada, over one-third of all cesareans are repeat cesareans. The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) recommends that the concept of routine repeat cesarean be replaced by a specific indication for surgery, and that most women can be counseled and encouraged to labor and have a vaginal birth after a cesarean (VBAC).
- In 1989, 81.5% of all US women with a previous cesarean had a repeat cesarean. The VBAC rate was 18.5%. The VBAC rate is greater in every eastern and western European country.
- The "once a cesarean, always a cesarean rule is outdated now that most of uterine incisions are low and horizontal and the risk of rupture of the old scar is almost nonexistent. A review of all VBAC literature from 1985-1990 found a rupture rate of 0.22% for low transverse scars in 22,000 planned labors after cesarean. (In developed nations the rupture rate was 0.18%.) By comparison, the incidence of other childbirth emergencies, such as prolapsed cord, placental separation, or sudden fetal distress is 1-3%.
- ACOG states that the hospital requirements for VBAC are the same standards for all obstetrics. These include the capacity to respond to acute obstetric emergencies by performing a cesarean within 30 minutes. However, many hospitals in North America that offer maternity care do not allow or encourage women to labor and have a VBAC.
- In a review of all the medical reports published on VBAC from 1926-1990, 75% of all women who planned labor after a cesarean gave birth vaginally. Several medical studies record VBAC rates of over 90%.
I understand the implications of this post. Who am I to tell anyone not to get an epidural...and really, it isn't what I'm trying to say. Doctors need to inform their patients of all the risks instead of assuming we don't need to know. It is our bodies, after all...
One more fact:
- Of 11,814 women admitted for labor and delivery and attended by midwives to 84 free standing birth centers in the US, 15.8% were transferred to the hospital and 4.4% had a cesarean section. Although the women were lower than average risk of a poor pregnancy outcome, their cesarean rate is one-fifth of the national average.
Posted by bonnie: at 7:19 AM 1 thoughts
Wednesday, July 19, 2006
Newfound Blog
I've known about Spunky from SpunkyHomeSchool for a long time. She's one of "the biggies." I never made an attempt to visit her on a daily (or weekly) basis, but I am really beginning to see her site, her research, and her writing as a treasure chest of knowledge. Her archives are amazing! Most of her posts have to do with homeschooling and family, and I love how many of them are tied in with what is going on in the world.
Did you hear about the investigation the Dallas Morning News did on the DISD's spending habits? Teachers are given credit cards that work like this: Card users are not responsible for paying their bills. Instead, the district gets one giant bill a month that includes the spending on all cards. DISD then pays that bill in one lump payment, usually around $1.5 million a month.
It was found that the card holders (DISD teachers) are abusing what was originally implemented to keep costs down:
The district launched its procurement card program seven years ago to eliminate the cost of processing purchase orders for low-cost, everyday items...This is outrageous. Do you realize that this is *our* money? Where I lived in Dallas we paid almost $5000 dollars at the end of the year to the school district. **And it was being spent on Christmas gifts and body lotion from that artificially smelling, girly place.** I am appalled, can you tell?
They're spending on items like this: a $200 blanket and pillow set from The Land of Nod, $1,700 in electric scooters, $200 in moisturizer from Bath and Body Works, and a $24.95 charge to an online dating service, Americansingles.com.
This is only the second link of many I will provide to Spunky's blog, because I keep reading great posts from her, but then cannot find them again. See reminder below:
(Let me remind you [and myself] that I created this blog [out of obligation] to document all the evidence to back up our convictions: articles, factual data, blogs, etc, so if I seem to simply be regurgitating what Spunky and others have said, that's why.)
I love you, my multiple readers (hah!)
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Monday, July 17, 2006
What the State Owes Women (With Their Own Tax Dollars, Of Course)
Spunky over at SpunkyHomeschool has the funniest *short* reply to Leslie Morgan Steiner. Who on earth is Leslie Morgan Steiner? Well I don't know, but what Spunky has to say in response to her demands of how Government should be taking care of working women's needs is just too funny not to pass on to you (that being if anyone still visits since I haven't posted a thing in a month). Go read it...
I Am Woman! Hear Me Whine!
Posted by bonnie: at 8:18 PM 1 thoughts
Tuesday, June 13, 2006
Portrait Exhibition Finalist, David Lenz
Artist Statement (David Lenz)
(Oil on linen, 2005)
My wife Rosemarie had just given birth to our son Sam, and although he appeared perfectly healthy, something, nevertheless, didn't seem right. There was an awkward silence in the room, no words of congratulation or comments about how cute he was – even though he was cute. Five minutes later the diagnosis was given: Sam has Down Syndrome. "Are you going to keep him?" a nurse asked. Later that evening someone else came by to "console" us. "It's every mother's worst nightmare," she said.
Welcome to the world, Sam.
In America today, perfection is highly valued. We dump loads of chemicals on our lawns to try and get rid of every weed, every dandelion. Models and supermodels are tall, impossibly fit, their clothes stylish and wrinkle-free. Images like this tend to change our perceptions, our ideals, until finally they leave us looking around at the peeling paint on our own houses, and our less than fit bodies, and it leaves us wanting.
Perfection, I would submit, is overrated. And besides, I like dandelions.
In the painting Sam assumes the role of presenter, host, even tutor, of this most revealing examination of the civilization man has made for himself. Sam is not society's accepted definition of perfection. In spite of that, or perhaps because of that, he really does have an important message for everyone to hear.
Posted by bonnie: at 12:20 PM 4 thoughts
Saturday, June 10, 2006
Shopping!
I love Ebay. I rarely buy things off it, but I love to look. In fact, I was just there tonight looking at all the pretty pink and silver birkenstocks...oh how I'd love to have a pair! (I tried to convince hubby that pregnant women really *do* need new birks...*sigh*)
Anyhow, I came across this *awesome* Ebay song at Mommylife- Weird Al is close to our hearts here in the castle domain...DearHubby and I can hum the same tune but when we start to sing, I'm singing Madonna's version and he is singing Weird Al's. It's so cruel; he will begin humming some tune, or outright singing some goofy song he knows from childhood, and for the next three days I'm singing the *real* version- usually Michael Jackson's "Beat It." So annoying!
So here it is. This is hilarious and the lyrics are there too!
The Ebay Song
(p.s. those pink shoes from Ebay are my wedding shoes...but mine are off white!)
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Thursday, June 8, 2006
An Apology
I've been convicted! Of course I said nothing rude in my comments over at choosinghome over the past weekend regarding LDS issues. I knew better than that! But here I thought that because no one reads my blog, (because no one does, right?) that I needn't be careful with my words. Well, just as I follow the links to people's blogs that comment, so do they. I have read my blog through the eyes of my visitors (what a novel idea) and I'm afraid I didn't pass the test. Please forgive me for the way I spoke so candidly about Joseph Smith (or mormonism in general). Who am I to insinuate that Joseph Smith was a disreputable person. Please forgive me for not being sensitive.
Sincerely, me
Posted by bonnie: at 7:39 AM 2 thoughts
Wednesday, June 7, 2006
Birth Control

Here's Al Mohler again. Maybe I should do some checking into this guy considering he's all over the internet...but anyway, I find his article on birth control very interesting, and would like to point out some interesting things I see with his "solution." This commenter from mommylife sums up what I'm thinking...
I love when Protestants "rethink" birth control. At least they're not just blindly popping the Pill...but it seems to me that whenever Protestants address this issue, they get *almost* to the point (children are blessings, why are we seeking to prevent them?) and then start backpeddling madly (but it's ok to prevent them if we have the right heart, and the trouble of children outweighs their "blessing-ness").
-Margaret
The other comments are worth reading as well (there's only a handful, and it's Holly's I appreciate so much), just so's you might broaden your thinking on the topic of big families. God is so good!
I'll post my thoughts on Mohler's solutions in a bit...got to get dinner together and run off to church!
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Monday, June 5, 2006
If you haven't read the others...
Woo-hoo! Deputyheadmistress did an *excellent* job defending the faith, refuting the Book of Mormon, and generally showing she is very intellectually (and lovingly) involved with the Mormons in her area. Read her comment! Come on, it's not long, you don't have to read both posts and all 200+ comments...just read her comment!!
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Sunday, June 4, 2006
The LDS Dialogue

There are so many comments (131 as of this instant) on the Choosing Home blog under part 2 of the LDS discussion that I thought I would send you to the very heart of the discussion. I have learned very interesting (and scary, for the Mormons) things regarding the basis of belief for LDSaints. If you are interested (which I am hoping you are), begin reading here, at comment # 113...
I must warn you that at this point in the discussion there are a few emotional protests. The ladies get over it quickly; I think everyone is exhausted from the research and "heart" they have put into it, but again, I think it is worth the read to understand a little better our precious Mormon friends that God loves and wants as His own.
Happy Discovering!
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Saturday, June 3, 2006
The Mormon Discussion

I finished reading Molly's second post over at Choosing Home. She is a brave woman, and filled with grace and truth- able to clearly set the "Mormon Discussion" before her audience. Today's post laid out what the Mormons believe to be the Gospel, the "good news" as it is called in the Protestant church. In the Latter Day Saints church it is called "The Heavenly Ladder." This is what Molly plans to lay out in her post:
In this post, I will stick to the actual documented sources. It will be much more productive for all involved. What we want to learn is what the LDS Church actually teaches, not what someone claims it teaches, right?I never knew this is what the LDS church believes. I have heard second, third, fourth, fifth hand accounts of what the LDS church believes- men become gods, get their own planet, women are perpetually pregnant (oh what *joy* Heaven must be!), but to hear it from their own books of doctrine? Honestly, after reading it, I find it unbelievable. Here is one quote that is really off the mark:Since our question is, “Who’s actually the Christian (one, the other, or both?),” learning what we each define to be the Good News of God really is important. Our definition of what the Gospel is forms the crux for the rest of our belief system. Who is Jesus and what exactly did He do for us? What’s the Good News for man?
“I want to reason a little on this subject [of God’s father]…If Abraham reasoned thus - If Jesus Christ was the Son of God, and John [doubtless the apostle] discovered that God the Father of Jesus Christ had a father, you may suppose that He [God’s Father and Jesus’ grandfather] had a father also. Where was there ever a son without a father? …Paul says that which is earthly is in the likeness of that which is heavenly, hence if Jesus had a father, can we not believe that He [God] had a father also? I despise the idea of being scared to death at such a doctrine, for the Bible is full of it!”
-Joseph Smith, History of the Church, Vol. 6, p 476
God has a father? Jesus has a great- grandfather? I see this as one very puffed up man speculating over scripture and ideas (that may have occured to me while I was still smoking too much pot), and forming a completely unadulterated false gospel. I know this is harsh language, but this is honestly the only way I can make sense out of Joseph Smith's two plus two equals thirteen.
Another quote I'd like to borrow from Molly's post (as to draw you as deeply into the discussion as I am!) irks me to pieces. Oh! the precious blood of Jesus! Oh! the forgiveness he extends, the love, the grace...
as far as the east is from the west, so far has He removed our trangressions from us. Psalm 103:12
This is what the LDS has to say about Christ and forgiveness:
“Heavenly Father has promised forgiveness upon total repentance and meeting all the requirements, but that forgiveness is not granted merely for the asking. There must be works - many works - and an all-out, total surrender…It depends upon you whether or not you are forgiven, and when. It could be weeks, it could be years, it could be centuries before that happy day when you have the positive assurance that the Lord has forgiven you.”
Elder Kimball –the Miracle of Forgiveness, pp. 324-325
This is not biblical. This is a fase teaching. When we belong to Christ, it is not works that bring on forgiveness, it is the sweet blood of Jesus covering over us.
You may also want to read Molly's first post on this topic, 60 comments and all. The LDS followers are taught that the Bible cannot be trusted, due to mistranslations. So if ever the Book of Mormon contradicts the Bible, well, um, it must be a mistranslation.
Pray, pray, pray that the ladies who are Mormon will listen to the Holy Spirit speaking to their hearts. These ladies are being presented the truth and many of them have decided- never mind, we don't want the discussion after all (it was a precious woman who brought up the question of "why don't Christians believe I am a Christian- as a Mormon?"). Pray for these women who are deceived!
And go read Molly's excellent article.
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